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Paul supporters clash with Rockdale GOP

CONYERS -- Ron Paul supporters cried foul after some of them were not selected as delegates by the local Republican Party during this past weekend's mass precinct meetings.

Almost all of the supporters of Paul's presidential campaign are members of the local Libertarian Party. David Williams, a Paul supporter and Rockdale Libertarian chairman, said he believed the party did not follow procedure during Saturday's meeting at the Conyers Holiday Inn.

Republicans from each of the county's 18 precincts elected representatives for the county's March 10 Republican convention. Along with establishing the local party's platform, the local convention selects delegates to the convention for the Fourth Congressional district.

"There was a lot of rudeness and a lot of standoffishness from the members of the Rockdale Republican Party, and it's been that way for a few years now," Williams said. "They seemed resentful of a lot of new faces coming into the room, which is strange since I thought they wanted to grow the party."

Williams said four Paul supporters were up for election to represent the Conyers precinct. Williams said a block of other voters, including Republican Party Chairman Don Williamson, as organized and voted against the Paul supporters.

Williamson said the Libertarians did the same thing in 2008 when Paul also ran for president. He said party activity is a significant factor for a lot of members in voting for someone at the precinct meetings.

"I'm sure there's one or two people who didn't make it and feel they were cut out because they are Ron Paulers," he said. "I would say along the lines of 'hey, start working with the party and earn your keep. Everybody else has.'"

The Republicans could not shut out the Libertarians, and as Williams pointed out to Williamson at the meeting, the Libertarian Party is not a recognized political party in Georgia. Therefore, its members were viewed at Saturday's GOP event as not belonging to any party.

Williams argued that he and others are Ron Paul supporters and since he is running as a Republican they should be allowed to participate in the local Republican party. Williams also said he helped organize several Tea Party events with the local party.

"A lot of people think it's all about their candidates," Williamson said. "You know, when it comes down to the county party, the county party's main function is not to put somebody in the White House. The county party's main function is to put someone in at 901 North Main St. (the county Board of Commissioners)."

In other news, The Fourth Congressional district GOP convention will be held in Conyers at the J.P. Carr Administration Building at 781 Taylor St. on April 14.

Williamson said reapportionment will have an affect on this year's district convention. DeKalb County was once the largest delegation based on votes cast in the 2008 elections. This year, Gwinnett will have the most delegates followed by Rockdale, DeKalb and Newton counties.

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AnnaMae 2 years, 6 months ago

If it is true that supporters of Ron Paul are Libertarians and they were attending a Republican meeting, could it be that the RP supporters were expecting resistance and that is how they perceived it.. Are you sure that people were just wondering who the new faces were? If they only show up only when Ron Paul is running, what conclusion could anyone come to.

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kbonko95 2 years, 6 months ago

Those Tea Party's were nothing more than an excuse for David Williams to support Libertarian candidates. The Rockdale GOP stands a lot taller in the saddle in being supporters of the Tea Party than Mr. Williams does.

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daveHEART 2 years, 6 months ago

several years ago, I was asked by then Chairperson, Kellie Pharr, to organize the first Rockdale Tea Party. The speakers I had arranged to speak were, for the most part, Republican candidates and people that Kellie specifically asked me to have speak. A tea party is not meant to be a campaign platform. It is for motivating people towards a better government and away from the tyranny that is growing in this nation. There were TWO known Libertarians speaking, and several Ron Paul supporters, who gave speeches on sound money, the 2nd amendment, why we should END THE FED, and a couple other topics. Can you please tell me where I went wrong with that concept "BONKO?"

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payn6911 2 years, 6 months ago

I attended this meeting and what I saw was a bunch of spoiled brats that felt they deserved to be delegates. I've only been working for the party a couple of years, but these Libertarians have no respect for anyone that actually does the work-what are they all on welfare?

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MalcomY 2 years, 6 months ago

I'll be the first one to hi 5 Mr. Williams for doing their part to beat down those Republicans. When Obama and Oden win re-election in November, I want to have a Libertarian Day. I just want to show my appreciation as a proud Democrat to those that fight the Republicans-you are all my brothers!

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daveHEART 2 years, 6 months ago

don't go getting all excited there, MalcomY....I oppose the socialist democrats for their use of government to plunder, as well as the race mongers who seek to drive a wedge between black and white americans, for political purposes. The democrats are one misguided bunch of socialists. In case you hadn't heard, this country is a Constitutional Republic, NOT a democracy, nor is it supposed to be socialist. What it has become is a corporate oligarchy using democracy to justify this program or that program. Wake up to the truth and free your mind from the trap.

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Freedom1 2 years, 6 months ago

Well, the cool thing about conservatives is that they think, they disagree, they aren't shy about where You are wrong, but they are still conservative, and vote that way because that's what they believe in, not because it's going to gain them something from Uncle Sam and Nanny Govt. Being individualistic makes them hard to herd in one direction. Unfortunately, all most of the Democrats need is a Judas Goat, and the lambs will follow.

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daveHEART 2 years, 6 months ago

I'd like to correct an error in this article....first of all, very few of the Ron Paul supporters actually participate in Libertarian Party events, so to claim they are all libertarian is an Alinsky tactic, meant to smear potential participants in the process.

Another thing is, it is presumptuous to claim that all the new faces at the mass meeting were Ron Paul supporters.

Many people don't know, or often forget, that the modern day "Tea Party" movement began with the Ron Paul campaign in '07, and was hi-jacked by the GOP establishment, So, when you speak of the "Tea Party," understand what you're talking about.

Also, this process is open to all registered voters. Sadly, the Republican party RARELY has a candidate that inspires independents to come out and get involved, because most are pandering liars, who only seek the power and money of elected office. And most modern Republicans are so progressive, it's hard to tell the difference between them and socialist democrats.

Ron Paul has been a Republican his whole life, with the exception of 2 years in which he ran for President in 1988 as a Libertarian candidate. He has been a Republican Congressman off and on for 30 years. People who attempt to label him a Libertarian should remember, that Romney was an Independent before he was a Democrat before he was a Republican.

While the gop establishment wants to label Ron Paul supporters as "Libertarian," as if it is an insult, they need to remember, that Ronald Reagan, great Conservative Republican Icon is quoted to have said that "Libertarianism is the heart of Conservatism."

It would serve the gop well to remember that! And it would serve them well to stop treating the party as if it were some sort of exclusive country club. This is our country, too....and we, the freedom loving, independent americans, who believe in the founders vision for this country, are sick and tired of not being represented in government at any level.

David Williams local Patriotic American and PROUD Ron Paul supporter

http://www.rockdalecitizen.com/users/photos/2012/feb/23/37262/

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AnnaMae 2 years, 6 months ago

From what I heard, no one cared who you and the other people supported. It is you who as informed the public just who they were. There ERROR in this article was from you.

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VPublicola 2 years, 6 months ago

Children, shut up and take your toys to your own sandbox.

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daveHEART 2 years, 6 months ago

Jason Hill will never get a vote from me, because he was complicit with the gop leadership in supporting the cronyism of the chairman. Folks, if you want TRUE leadership, it cannot come from people who blindly follow party rhetoric and ritual. And excluding Ron Paul supporters is abject STUPIDITY on the part of the gop. How can we vote for stupid people???

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hillbilly_hiker 2 years, 6 months ago

Agreed, Jason Hill showed his true colors saturday by being bullied by stupid little party politics. Polticians must be above this.

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VPublicola 2 years, 6 months ago

Richard Oden is counting on YOU Dave!

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daveHEART 2 years, 6 months ago

I do not support Oden, because he has certainly shown himself to be guilty of cronyism, just like Mr Hill. Personally, I'd rather give Ed Conway a shot. He can't possibly do any worse than Hill or Oden.

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hillbilly_hiker 2 years, 6 months ago

I attended this meeting as well, and what I saw was a bunch of cranky old farts who feel like the entire process should be left to them. Thomas Jefferson once said it was necessary for each generation to have a revolution. Greetings. I may be what you call a libertarian, but I have been a registered Repulican since 2003. What you describe as spoiled brats, I saw nothing of the sort except properly dressed youth that, for the most part, were more informed then the majority of the room. You may assume that this is about Ron Paul, but it is far more massive than that. We've grown up in this town and are now becoming adult citizens in our community.It is us, that this community has to look forward to. Sure we have what you may consider fringe or extreme ideas, but that's what you get when you've had cronyism for so long. We bring honestly, responsibilty, open-mindedness, and integrity. We want to see all candidates to office share these same beliefs and uphold them. For far to long we have seen our community flushed down the pipes and we are the ones that have to live with it longer.

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Freedom1 2 years, 6 months ago

I too was at this meeting. When was the last time you saw a group of 20 somethings talking about the constitution, and eager to learn the process that helps to select our elected officials? I actually agree that these people, not all were 20 somethings by a long shot, need to attend the meetings, and get involved at a deeper level. But apparently they won't be welcomed. They have the same problem I do, do I want to pay my $25 dues just in order to be allowed in meetings, and supporting people I cannot believe in? The party officials were threatened, and were given instructions from the State Party on how to handle the Ron Paul supporters. I remind them of their principles that each must sign before going into the meeting, "I BELIEVE the strength of our nation lies with the individual and that each person’s dignity, freedom, ability and responsibility must be honored." I'm not a Ron Paul supporter, but Ron Paul is a REPUBLICAN candidate, and those polite, well-behaved 20 somethings had a right to a voice. Republicans have more in common with Libertarians than not, the GOP should be building coalitions, not flushing them down the toilet. These young people are idealistic, smart, and have way more time than the old folks, I suggest we start bringing them aboard rather than tossing them over the rail. I have a feeling that they are not going away.....

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daveHEART 2 years, 6 months ago

That is exactly what I told Don Williamson when they took me into the principals office to scold me....that he should be building coalitions with Libertarians, Independents, and those who don't exactly adhere to strict party mentality. But, they prefer having their little country club, so they can CONTROL it.

The problem in this country is that most people have truly lost sight of what made this country great. It isn't military might. It isn't because one party is better than another. It's because it was built with the intention of allowing individuals to achieve their potential in life. but, the sad truth is, it has become a huge plantation, where the majority of the people are educated(dumbed down) by government sponsored indoctrination centers, churning out millions of idiots who are barely functional, with meager vocabularies and math skills, and a very dim understanding of what freedom and responsibility means.

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heresyafacts 2 years, 6 months ago

The GOP is fracturing because there are too many varying opinions, all of them apparently with a "my way or the highway" ego to match. The good ol' boy structure that has been running things at the top is going to have to accept new blood and new thinking; and the younger element in the party is going to have to learn the art of compromise and long-term thinking. On that note, Rick Santorum has absolutely with a capital "N" no chance of winning; but neither does Ron Paul. They each have their strengths, and they each have good ideas, but they are not going to win. And though the remaining two candidates each have faults, either is better than a second term of office for Obama, so buckle down, pick one, and get on board. (And btw, GOP, that means dropping once and for all the anti-abortion, anti-contraceptives, anti-gay rhetoric, because that will never win a national election; the vast majority of Americans may embrace fiscal conservatism, but they are most assuredly not going to vote in the Morality Police.)

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daveHEART 2 years, 6 months ago

I agree with most of what you said, but respectfully, I disagree with the comment that Ron Paul has no chance of winning. Did you know that Ron Paul won the Gwinnett, DeKalb, and other polls last week? Often by a landslide! This race is a contest for the very SOUL of this nation. We must choose between the establishment or the lone constitutionalist, who represents the founders ideals and who has lived his entire life in a consistent manner. Choose, right or wrong...not the lesser of two evils. I CHOOSE RIGHT. Thanks for your comments.

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Freedom1 2 years, 6 months ago

Thank you, Heresyafacts, well said. But in case anyone hasn't noticed, this just ain't about Ron Paul anymore. Does the Republican Party still represent conservatives in this country anymore, really? We're locked into Democrats and Republicans, who is watching out for the people? Certainly not the people who usually have a hard time pulling themselves away from the national tranquilizer, TV or working themselves to death to keep up with dwindling income and rising taxes. The schools teach collectivism and that everyone should be guaranteed equal outcome. We are faced with some choices, and so many don't even realize they are hanging on by a hair. As usual, only about 1 or 2% will make the difference.

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Taftconservative 2 years, 4 months ago

Hey, wasn't Don Williamson, the guest speaker at the Libertarians last year? If so he must be fairly Libertarian himself and maybe not a real Republican

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