As of Friday, May 25, 2012
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Rockdale Citizen
"I saw where Oz Nesbitt and many others from Conyers were protesting and/or angry about the Treyvon Martin case in Florida. Why aren't any of those folks trying to push for answers about the death of Daquavious Mapp right here in Conyers? He was killed at a house party over a year ago and there was never anyone charged with his killing. The police claimed that the witnesses ran and the ones that they talked to wouldn't give straight answers. Why is no one walking around in hoodies and Skittles for him? Is it because it was black on black so it doesn't bother the community as much? Dequavious was not a terrible person. If Obama had a son, he would look like Daquavious too. Where are all the politicians on this case? Maybe they don't really care about Treyvon either unless there are cameras around and it is politically expedient. Where are Sharpton and Jackson on this and the thousands of other cases like it?"
"Dr. King and his staff sit in their offices and wish the best for our students. That is how they manage. So, I sit here and wish the best for him as he heads to Virginia."
"I'm a student-athlete at RCHS and I am very disappointed with your paper. It seems like the only sports coverage you give is to Newton County teams. There has been an article in your paper about each school in Newton County Spring Football games and baseball games. I mean this is the Rockdale Citizen right? Newton Citizen even does updates on college players from Newton schools. Aren't both papers owned by the same people? Your paper has forgotten that we too have three high schools. Even last season Rockdale schools got little to no coverage in what we call our paper. Come on and get it together before this fall or should I check the Newton Citizen for articles about us?"
"My husband just started driving a commercial truck. When he comes home on the weekend he usually has a load that he will drop off in another state on Monday. Our problem is finding a place to park a semi-truck for the 36 hours that he will be home. I have been reading the posts where people are complaining about the semi-trucks parking at Walmart, which they cannot do any longer. This recent event poses a problem: where is he supposed to park his truck? I don't think our neighbors would be happy with him parking it in the neighborhood. But if that is what it takes to be able to spend time with my husband, we will do that. The people that have complained about the truckers and where they park need to take into consideration that the truckers deliver everything in our lives; things don't just appear on store shelves for us, someone has to get it there. Why would you want to make it so hard on these people and their families? If Rockdale County had approved the truck stop on Sigman Road, that Billy Corey wanted to put up years ago, none of this would be a problem today. Since that did not happen and it is a problem, where are truckers supposed to park their trucks now that the parking at Walmart is off limits? These trucks are not 'dangerous' when parked, like some people have written in claiming. These trucks are non-moving objects that are in parking spots if there is any danger then it's the driver that cannot avoid a large, visible, stationary object. Punishing the men and women who live in Conyers and work nationwide should not be the answer to this problem."
"To the citizens of Rockdale County, rise up! As a citizen of this county and pretty much a life-long resident I make this statement. After reading the Citizen Poll, Police Blotter and what is seen around town we have this 'problem' only because we allow it. The crimes such as burglaries, drugs, battery and killings happen in our county because we condone it. We the people of Rockdale County approve of this behavior. We approve of it because we ignore it, overlook it and act as if it's not happening because it did happen to me. Let's adopt an ordinance like Kennesaw, Ga. Let's all have a weapon in our home! This way the 'bad guys' know we're ready. Let's push for banning from our county, like the kind of banning Judge Nation deals out. Let's inspect what we expect. Let's remember our children are just that, children. We as residents need to hold ourselves at a higher esteem. The older people of our community just shake their heads at the lack of our discipline. As the 'wheel' of our county we need to take back our community and make it harder to 'hide' in plain sight. If you don't behave like civilized people, then leave and go to where there are thieves, drug dealers, abusers and murderers like yourselves so you are in your own environment. The school system needs to demand respect for and from both students and teachers. If you want to ignore the guidelines for attending a Rockdale County school, then leave. All this Open Campus and classes for students with 'issues' is catering to the standards we are approving of. This county has in place judges who are firm. As the election year is upon us we need to choose candidates who have our vision. The vision of a community that is desirable, a community that's a not race driven or good 'ole boy ran, but a community that demands and deserves respect from its citizens because the elected officials have earned it. As an adult I have a fear of my mother, a healthy fear, the fear of her "promises" not threats. We need to instill this same kind of fear to the criminals that live among us. We can do this. If you are offended then you or your family members are the ones we read about in the paper and the blotter. The only excuse is the one you tell yourself. Ask yourself this, am I really going to let the teenagers, young adults and career criminals control and guide my fears, safety and livelihood till I die or move? I challenge this of you, show your strength, your common sense and your want of a better community. Do this and you will see change. How much will depend on your dedication. In closing I say rise up and take control!"
"The looting of the poor in this country must stop. Elected officials and civic leaders in many parts of the country just look the other way. Don't forget the good old boy network in many levels of state government. The special interests have nothing but greed on their minds. Not the welfare of the country and it's citizens."
"The blotter is useless without addresses. I don't know the names of the people who now reside around me. The ones I've talked to only give a first name (if any) after I fully introduce myself, which I consider to be very rude. My name is my word. Why would a person not want to give a full name after all? The only reason I can think of is because the person is involved with nefarious activities. The Citizen needs to get The Blotter back to the way it has always been, timely, informative and precise, or just stop publishing it. In it's current form it's a waste of paper. Use the space to sell ads."
Editor's note: The addresses have been restored to the Police Blotter.
"People who live in the city of Conyers. Conyers can save a lot of money. 'Get rid of the City Manager and the good old boy net work.' Members of the city council are you serving the people of Conyers or the special interests. You serve the special interests. In the years ahead we can look forward to a snow job from the city and county governments. Increases in taxes. What fools we are?"
"My day begins by reading the paper and doing the puzzles. I look forward to doing the puzzles with my coffee before going to work or to church. I have a special way of covering the clue to the Cryptoquip to see if I can solve without it. But today, May 20, I was frustrated because the solution to the Cryptoquip was almost beside the puzzle. And before I could cover, I accidentally saw too much. In essence I did not get the fun and pleasure of solving that puzzle. Would you please be careful to put the solutions to the puzzles on a different page?"
"Once again CMS administration has shown they have no backbone. The administration watching the door was letting girls with extra short dresses into the eighth-grade dance. These dresses left nothing to the imagination. When asked why these girls were let in it was stated, 'We don't have the heart to turn them away.' This is not setting any kind of example for these kids. I was clearly stated on the tickets about the attire. It was also stated through the school-wide phone message that students would be turned away at the door if the attire do not the meet dress code. Why were they? It is not all the school's fault, the parents of these girls should have made them cover up more. Way to go CMS."
"Somebody needs to give Josie Dean her own show. She makes a lot more sense than the BOC most of the time, and she's a heck of a lot more entertaining."
"Where can I see a sample ballot for the July elections? I checked the Rockdale County website but the sample ballot was an old one. Also -- didn't Caycie Dix resign her position on the Elections Board? She's still listed as a Board member on the website."------"Is it significant that the Republicans are qualifying their candidates at an attorney's office and the Democrats at Cupcake Palace?"
"Would like to comment on the notice of possible B.O.E. to employ a contractor to clean our schools in an effort to save money. With the assignment of a contractor company, the employed custodians have been given the options of staying on with the schools (under the contractor), retire (If eligible), quit, or under circumstances be fired. Not really much of an option if it were me. To stay on (not being eligible to retire) would mean that I would lose all my sick time (saving the B.O.E. money). In some cases this amounts to thousands of dollars that I saved in case of time of need for me or my family's health. If I try and take a sick day between now and the 30th of June, the B.O.E. would have me sign a letter saying that I cannot take a sick day unless I have a doctor's note. I would suppose if I didn't bring a note, they would not pay me for my sick day or fire me for not abiding by their recent note signing this week. I would think that exploring more of the options of reducing the 12 month employees to 10 month employees doesn't seem to be more of an option. I would think that the B.O.E. may have other options not explored but has taken the easy way by sticking it to the custodians. This effort had been tried before and didn't work out. To be a custodian in Rockdale these days, would mean making a decision that has much to think about what had been left on the table for my family by the B.O.E. If it were me, I would tell them to take this job and __ !"
"I would like to commend Garvin Haynes for his comments at a recently televised BOC meeting. I don't always agree with the things he says (in fact, quite often, I am completely opposite to what he says), but his comments regarding the unfairness of the county bonuses given to all, without regard as to who has received raises in the last few years or who is already making a more-than-liveable wage -- is spot on. The commissioners have truly erred on this. It is very unfair to give yet another reward to those who received raises last year while others have gone without raises for four years or more. It is very unfair to give $1000 to those who are making $60,000 and $90,000 and more, when the people that really need it are the ones on the lower echelons, the people who are trying to live on less than $40,000. This whole thing might have been a feel-good act for the BOC, but it was poorly thought-out and poorly executed."
More like this story
- Rockdale Citizen Poll for Feb. 17, 2013 ( February 15, 2013 )
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- Rockdale Citizen Poll Feb. 24, 2013 ( February 22, 2013 )
Comments
Rob 12 months ago
"To the citizens of Rockdale County, rise up!" To whoever posted that. Thank You! I've been trying to have this conversation for years but nobody seems to care. There are so many aspects to the problems of crime in this county that people just want to pretend it's not happening. Everybody from our Chairman to our Sheriff just make excuses and refuse to tackle the problem head on. Most Rockdale citizens just seem to have their heads in the sand. After years of trying to have this conversation I've just simply given up. I moved my parents out of Rockdale a few months ago and I am seriously considering a move myself. (I'm waiting to see what November's election brings to Rockdale). Our schools are failing, crime is rising, and our big government politicians just want more of the same. I understand that our crime problem goes deeper than just politics but this bunch sure isn't helping much. Last year the Sheriff's department actually had the gall to run a front page story that "crime was actually down in Rockdale". The following two headlines? Bank robbery in Conyers and another about a murder at GameStop. I don't know who these people think they are kidding? This bogus article gave Oden an excuse to push his transportation/Marta agenda by claiming that "there was just an article in the paper about how crime is down in Rockdale". Mind numbing! But if you speak out about this you are shunned and mocked for daring to question the elite in charge. I know I'm going on a bit of a tangent here that may be hard to follow but these are all real life experiences I've had in the last few years. You speak up, they shoot you down! I never have and never will claim to have all the answers but it's at least obvious to me that the things that are happening now aren't working. Yet this same bunch will be re-elected and people will continue to wonder why Rockdale is becoming Dekalb East. Personally my belief that a sharp turn back to God is the only thing that can save Rockdale and the Nation as a whole. But that's just the opinion of a bitter redneck "clinging to his guns and religion". Sigh
AJK 12 months ago
(As I step up on the soap box) I get so tired of people blaming their problems on someone else. To the person who's husband is a truck driver; you asked, where is he supposed to park his truck? How about in the parking lot of the company he works for. WalMart's parking lot is private property. If they don't want trucks parking there then it's their right. Here are two more suggestions, buy an acre of land so he can park his truck on that land. Make sure the zoning will allow for parking commercial vehicles before you buy the land though. Or, tell your husband he needs another career. Pretty cold aren't I? Well I spent 10 years behind the wheel of an 18 wheeler, I know what it's like....in fact I got a ticket from code enforcement once (in another town) for parking my tractor in my driveway in a subdivision....I was clearly in violation of the local ordinances, so I paid the ticket. What did I do after that, I found someone with an acre of commercial property five miles from my house, for $5 a night they let me park my truck there....beat the heck out of parking it on company property 50 miles from home. Hey you know what, you're not to only one with this problem, why don't you buy that acre of land and charge other drivers a fee for a safe place to park their truck? Your problem is solved, their problem is solved, and I don't get ticked off because you're blaming your problems on someone else. It's a win win win! (I'm steppin' off the soap box now!)
ClaytonBigsby 12 months ago
Thank you very much, AJK. I've been in very nearly the same spot (much smaller truck), and I solved it by leaving the truck on the company lot and driving a beater to/from. Yes, "if you got it, a truck brought it", but that's no reason whatsoever for tractor trailers to be parked on side streets and road shoulders. Ordinances don't exist just to make life tough on the folks in this situation--they're there to preserve quality of life. Rigs just don't belong where they don't belong.
cntyemp 11 months, 4 weeks ago
Most truckers are considered independent contractors, therefore there is no "employer". Also, most neighborhoods have ordinances against parking trucks in them. She is perfectly right in her statements.
Clark 11 months, 4 weeks ago
Trucking has gotten its way for years, fighting taxes that would more fairly make trucks pay their share of road maintenance, fighting trust-busting measures, fighting subsidies to other forms of transport, and now you want more? If I had it my way, long-distance trucking would be banned and rail transport would all take over the long-haul cargo except where the numbers actually do favor the long-distance truck (which isn't anywhere in Georgia).
NitetimeinDaytime 11 months, 4 weeks ago
My brother is a truck driver and he pays to keep his "rig" at a storage facility (like where people keep their boats) when not in use.
Zo 12 months ago
The problem can be solved by putting Ferguson in charge of the sheriffs department. We are not growing citizen wise as the big city, however we are getting big time "criminals." Why not place a guy who has dealt with the worst criminals Georgia has had. Yes, Ferguson for Sheriff. People keep using the excuse of look at Fulton County. Yes look at Fulton County and its troubles. It's troubles were discovered because of the standards Captain Ferguson implimented.
Please watch this for yourself. The More Of The Same Partners (Levett & Wigington) are a joke. Not sure why folks dislike Ferguson because in this race it's hands down Ferguson. Ferguson seems almost too qualified compared to more of the same partners. Oddly, the Citizen didn't report this in the paper. I hope this get posted
http://bocwatch.org/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=816
whyohwhy 12 months ago
Ok well that link was very interesting and I am glad you posted it. I was unaware that that meeting had been scheduled or I would have made it a point to attend. But again, I thank you for posting that link!
I want to commend Ferguson for one thing......during a point in the video he explained to Josie and the rest of the crowd that although he was a person of "color", he did not want to be perceived in that way. Very classy of him...and no I am not being sarcastic. I genuinely believe that this has become a black vs. white thing.
My only concern for the Sheriff position is that whoever wins figures out a way to treat the Deputies better and provides a better quality of life for the citizens.
As much as I hate politics, I believe its a necessary evil that we must embrace one way or another. I hate that big wig and fergie ferg were throwing blows at each other while Levett seemed to focus on the "meat and potatoes" of the questions.
Now with that being said, Ferguson still does not have the experience needed to run a FULL SERVICE Sheriff's Dept. I look at it this way.....If you have been working at a cake factory for 35 years and some new CEO shows up who worked at a Tire factory, wouldnt you be a little concerned. Seeing as how the guy used to make tires and now hes supposed to be in charge of making cakes? Sure they were both factories and they make products......Maybe my analogy is a little off. But you get the point.
Zo 11 months, 4 weeks ago
There are CEO's that transition to different companies all the time and the companies have nothing to do with each other. At an executive level using your example tires and cakes they have one thing in common, MONEY and RESULTS(bottomline). As a General, you lead whatever is placed in front of you. Just the fact Ferguson has leadership under his belt becoming Rockdale's next Sheriff will be a easy transition. Now on the other hand Levett is the questionable one. I think Wigington threw a lot of untruths out there. He mentioned all these programs, but here Wigington has 2 of his own deputies talking about very low moral and crime is up in Rockdale. Ferguson's skill sets will be an asset when getting the BOC to honor a pay increase. Which you can see Wigington hasn't done yet. A "true" CEO make things happen!!
1ayk 11 months, 4 weeks ago
Call Sheriff Thomas Brown of DeKalb County (one of the best around) and see how many employee "mishaps" have happened during his administration and he still has a model agency. Pay will increase when the economy improves after the likes of President Obama, CEO and Chairman Oden, Nesbit and the other liberals are gone!!
Zo 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Assumption, the economy will get better when "likes of President Obama, CEO and Chairman Oden, Nesbit and the other liberals are gone!!" So we chance another four years of low morale of those risking their life for us? No, you put change in there now. , get those pay increase, build morale and if your theory comes true they will get another pay increase!
Stop acting like a catfish, have to drag you from the bottom;act like a Bass, and jump out that water and show them your fight. Ferguson is really your guy, leave that catfish fishing and step up to that BASS fishing!
1ayk 11 months, 3 weeks ago
You do realize the Commisioners hold the purse strings i.e. for all county government. Is Oden holding on until Ferguson gets in for political purposes? The buddy system as you call it is color blind. How many unqualified people have been given jobs in the county by Oden and Oz? One is too many!
Zo 11 months, 3 weeks ago
State the fact of who has been given a job? You can't just more baseless claims. In honesty, this probably the first time this much education every existed in public office of Rockdale. Where is stat man, elmo, run them numbers. Wow, you worried now "the buddy system" is getting ready to work for the "Deputies". So that's your story line when Ferguson increase pay & morale it was because of the buddy system? If that's what it takes to get these brave Deputies off food stamps, 2&3 extra jobs to make ends meet. Guess what, so be it. I think their worth the pay increase.
1ayk 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Let's see, water department, finance department, the county attorney. By the way without revenue coming in pay will be at a minimum. With county being run by these two buisness is leaving, people moving, forclosures, having a "food stamp" president in office, I can go on and own. So, dream the dream as the county and this country falter.And for that matter where were all of these so called educated people educated?
Zo 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Go read from the bottom up and it list all the education (schools) & promotions very impressive:
Sheriff finds no fault in traffic stop of opponent's ex-wife by Alice Queen
Zo 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Now here's the education of Ferguson: Attending: Doctor of Education in Organizational Leadership with Emphasis in Organizational Development. [10/2013] MPA-Master Degree Public/Justice Administration Columbus State University-2008 93rd Administrative Officer Management Course, Southern Police Institute -1995 Southwestern Law Enforcement Institute-1996 29thGeorgia Command College -2008 Clayton County Regional Police Academy-1985 BS-Criminal Justice, University of West Georgia-1982 BA-Psychology, University of West Georgia -1981 Fraternal Order of Police Lodge #64 National Organization for Black Law Enforcement Executives National and Georgia Sheriff’s Association Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity York Rites Mason, Majestic Knights Lodge No. 333 International Association of Chiefs of Police Law Enforcement Training Managers Association American Jail Association Correctional accreditation Managers Association NYCCA Youth Coach (Baseball, Football, & Basketball) 1989-2000 *Member, Springfield Baptist Church, Conyers, Georgia
wayne 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Bo, most of that isn't education, it's civic orginazitions. He working on his PhD and while that is a good thing, it doesn't make him a leader. From his campaign signs I see around the county, most of the people supporting him have moved.
Zo 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Wine, not sure if you know the college hierarchy of education 1. Bachelors 2. Masters 3. Ph.D. & Ferguson has ALL of those. Glad you pointed out the organizations, because it's the organizations that hone your skill sets for leadership. So, not only is he educated he's involved. I would like to see More Of The Same Partners show their education. Oddly, folks always knock what they don't have. Trust if More Of The Same Partners had a fraction of what Ferguson has it would be talking points.
wayne 11 months, 3 weeks ago
It's my undeerstanding from your previous posts that he doesn't have his PhD yet. That makes his education equal to our current sheriff. Ferguson's experience doesn't match Wiggington's. Reading DF's qualifications, I don't see where he has any leadership experience, he just teaches it. You know the old saying, "If you can't do it, teach it" ONce upon a time, I was a mason, shriner, belonged to a union, coached youth sports, and I have a collge degree. Will you vote for me?
Zo 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Experience, Wigington's experience on the job ALL right here in Rockdale from dispatcher to sheriff, Ferguson"s has Fulton County experience, University experience, & set standards for his peers in law enforcement. Here's a good example: the mayor of Conyers could never be and not qualified to be mayor of New York, but the Ex mayor of New York, Rudy Giuliani, could be the mayor of Conyers. He would be an asset to Conyers.
It will be an asset to have big time Fulton County experience to Rockdale and to take the department to the next level, so the brave deputies can get a pay increase, get off food stamps, and stop having to working 2 to 3 part-time jobs to make ends meet. And most importantly increase morale.
Zo 11 months, 4 weeks ago
Another example:
Also, as a leader you take care of your guys. Wigington never mention or address the possible reason for low morale. Yes, pay is one; however it's more to the morale issue. Just the mere fact one of his own has challenged his boss on his boss last possible term SPEAKS VOLUMES!! That's like Chipper Jones trying to push Bobby Cox out on his last year of being the manager.Just give Ferguson a fair look. Thanks!
1ayk 11 months, 4 weeks ago
You are kidding right? Ferguson "discovered the troubles of Fulton County/" A blind man could see the problems and they have been around for a long time and still are. Ferguson was on the accreditattion team. And there is no "I" in team. Fulton had achieved accredidation (God only know how) long before him. He was envolved in seeing they kept accreditation. If he was so wonderful and a go getter, why did he not run for Sheriff there? Ask when was the last itme he served a warrant or made a traffic stop or answered a call. I would be interested since most metro counties have their on police departments and handle these types of issues. Full service means policing and running the courts, jail and serving papers. What are his qualifications in this area, I like to know. And, considering his mishaps in the past give me pause.
Zo 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Firstly, you have to remember your current sheriff Wigington started as a DISPATCHER. When was the last time daddy Bush signed anything as President, but they still ask his opinion. Ferguson over qualified against More Of the Same Partners (Wigington & Levett). Go look at my links I have ALL his education & his progression from deputy to CAPTAIN of FULTON COUNTY. You have to earn your rank in those big time systems. Not like here in Rockdale, because you and Bob Bob go fishing you get promoted. and get to drive the SUV (side note one of the reasons for low morale among current deputies).
Normally when you can't qualify as a deputy off the bat you go dispatcher or jail duty guard. Then you mention "mishaps" come on address the current sheriff's mishaps. Yes people fall in & out of love. But people do not get stopped dui & drugs, So mishaps? FYI, you think Romney did the labor of his companies, NO his job was to run it efficiently so your stock would increase. Read about Ferguson with an open mind. Talk with you later
wayne 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Now there is the old Bo we all know & love.
Frustrated 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Oz have you stopped to think that Wiggington was too young to carry a gun when he started with the Sheriff's Office? Thats why he started as a Dispatcher, not because he was unqualified.
Ant01 12 months ago
Does anyone know the company the board plans on hiring to do the custodial work. I'm concerned.
will 11 months, 4 weeks ago
Stop using Treyvon as a reason to cause trouble. He was on top of Mr. Zimmerman slamming his head on the ground and beating him in the face according to the young black kid who was an eye witness, Mr. Zimmermans injuries also point to the accuracy of this kids eye witness account. Its sad that this young man was killed but Zimmerman had no choice his life was in danger. To all the idiots that now wear hoodies in protest, WAKE UP!!!. The thugs that cause most of the trouble in this area and many others wear hoodies to hide their identity. Wearing a hoodie in warm weather is foolish anyway.
Zo 11 months, 4 weeks ago
I agree that the hoodies need to come off. However, the beat down Zim got was from him following that young boy around. And like most cowards, they have to pull a gun. If Zim would have listen he wouldn't have gotten that beat down and that kid, Martin, would still be here.
will 11 months, 4 weeks ago
Zo nobody will ever know what really happened that night and Zimmerman should have listened to the 911 dispatcher but from what I have been reading this area had slow response from the police because there were so many calls that ended up without an arrest or anyone being caught. There again this is something that was reported so who knows if thats true, the press has misrepresented the truth about this matter over and over and thats has been proven. Why was Treyvon beating Zimmerman, we will never know. Did Treyvon try to tell Zimmerman why he was walking through the development or did he jump Zimmerman because he felt threatened, we will never know. Bottom line is Treyvon was shot because there was a physical altercation and Zimmerman was on the losing end until he shot this young kid in self defense. For all Zimmerman knew this young kid could have been armed with a weapon, it was dark. If you were in this situation ask yourself what you would have done, emotions were high and this kid could have beat him to death it happens all the time. Zo this was a tragedy from the start but one thing is for sure if any further violence comes from this everyone will suffer. Violence does not solve anythig so people need to act like civilized humans not barbaric animals. Zo, racism is alive and well in all races and that is a problem we all need to work on. Zo have a great day and be a example for all young kids in a positive way.
Zo 11 months, 4 weeks ago
Will, if Zim had all those concerns(I.e. Martin had a gun, slow response time,etc) then why didn't Zim practice non-violence and adhere to 911? There was no crime being committed at all or had been committed, but Zim wanted thatvkid. The other coward point is Zim is the ONLY one who came to the fight with a hidden gun..I promise you this if that kid knew Zim had a gun that phone call Martin was on would have been a call for help. Nobody goes to gun fight without a gun.
Will really not hearing your point, but if you coming off about equality, Black/white issue. That kid losing his life is the wrong example. And if you questioning my perspective on the Black/white things I comment on it to is also a bad example.
wayne 11 months, 4 weeks ago
Careful, Bo, you're are about to come off as sensible. I've read a couple of your posts lately that make pretty good sense.
will 11 months, 4 weeks ago
Zo, How do you know that Trayvon was not the person who started the fight, you dont. Also if Zimmerman was just following Martin why is that a reason for Martin to beat Zimmerman like he was? We do not know who started the confrontation.You say Mr. Zimmerman was a coward for bringing a gun, thats wrong he has a right to protect himself and that is what he did, he did not know there was going to be a fight. Here is my point I will type slow so you might understand, People want to convict Mr. Zimmerman when there are way too many questions about the whole tragedy for all we know Martin jumped Zimmerman for no reason other than he was following him and do you find it strange how the stories have changed from the initial statements. Maybe this kid told Mr. Zimmerman he was going to beat him to death, we do not know. Maybe Martin told Zimmerman he had a gun in his hoodie pockets, we dont know. If this was just another fight in the ghetto by two black people it would not be a big deal but since it was a white/hispanic the black people want to cry racism and march, why dont you march when a black kills a black. There is no such thing as a hate crime, nobodies life is better than someone elses. If it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt that Mr. Zimmerman killed Mr. Martin in cold blood and was not defending himself then and only then convict Mr. Zimmerman. Also Zo we know where you stand on the race issue, its the black people are always the poor innocent victim. Get over your racist views and start marching to stop the violent culture in the black community. Daquavious was murdered but all the witnesses dont want to snitch, if they cared they would tell the police what they saw and what they know and they know who killed him. You see it all the time when there is a crime in the ghetto , 50 people were watching the crime but when its time to man-up they turn into stupid cowards, sound familiar.
1ayk 11 months, 4 weeks ago
If you were not there then shut up!
rockdalehomeowner 11 months, 3 weeks ago
As a parent, I have to disagree with your view that Zimmerman had no choice.
Unfortunately people kidnap children and adults so how do you know that Treyvon wasn't thinking this was about to happen?
In addition, the police dispatcher told Zimmerman to stop following Treyvon. Mr. Zimmerman was wrong and for that he should go to jail.
will 11 months, 3 weeks ago
rockdalehomeowner, I never said Zimmerman did not have a choice what im saying is none of us were there so we really do not know what happened. Also as to the 911 dispatcher i have not seen anything that proves the dispatcher was a member of the police force. I may be wrong but from what several police officers have told me they are civilian employees who call the police, fire, or ambulance in an emergency situation. That means they have no police power they can simply suggest an action to take. I agree with you that Treyvon may have thought he was about to be kidnaped and in that thought process would it be better to run to someones door or try to fight a stranger, thats a tough one to answer in the heat of the moment. People have the right as did Treyvon to walk freely in the public streets as does Zimmerman. I would like to know who instigated the fight, was it Martin or Zimmerman I have not seen anything about that. Last time I checked there is not a law that says a person cant follow another person but if Zimmerman started the fight then send him to jail I dont have a problem with that at all. All im saying is there are many termites in this wood pile, there have been many lies told and stories changed. Let our justice dept do its job and not convict in the press.
rockdalehomeowner 11 months, 3 weeks ago
@ Will Here is the direct quote from you saying that Zimmerman did not have a choice..."Stop using Treyvon as a reason to cause trouble. He was on top of Mr. Zimmerman slamming his head on the ground and beating him in the face according to the young black kid who was an eye witness, Mr. Zimmermans injuries also point to the accuracy of this kids eye witness account. Its sad that this young man was killed but Zimmerman had no choice his life was in danger."
We will never know who started the fight because Treyvon is dead. We only have Zimmerman's statement so we will never know the truth. We can only speculate.
As far as Treyvon's actions that fateful night, how do you know he wasn't defending himself. Children are taught nowadays to fight for their lives. My son towers over me but he still sees the world through a kids' eyes and he gets scared if strange people get too close to our house, car, or wherever we are. Sometimes he runs in the house and sometimes he grabs my bat so according to your theory then, is he reacting improperly?
BTW, thanks for telling me about the dispatchers not "really" being agents for the police. You're telling me then that I can ignore their suggestions when my life is in danger. So when I pull a Zimmerman everyone will understand...right?!
Sundance 11 months, 4 weeks ago
So what about Daquavious? He was a young black teenager killed at a party here in Conyers. WHy is no one raising cain about finding his killer except his mom? There were only teenagers there. Not hardened thugs. The cops can't put the pressure on some teenagers to talk? WHere is Sharpton? Where is Nesbitt and Oden? WHy is no one pushing this issue? Why isnt Oden and Oz walking around with skittles about Daquavious? Probably because there is nothing personal for them to be gained in this case. The fact that it would be the right thing to do doesnt really matter.This is a small town and all of the teenagers in Conyers know about this event and they know the killer is running around free. Something stinks about it. Dequavious was not and angel but he was an all right kid and was trying to get his life straight.This case has not gotten the attention it deserves. Now, The families in our town know that kids can get away with murder. I hate that my home town has allowed a killer to go free.
wayne 11 months, 4 weeks ago
They only break out the Skittles if it attracts attention to them. I agree with you about the message it sends to the thugs around here. Ol Ody would be more concerned it it were perfectly positioned to take him to the future & beyond.
1ayk 11 months, 4 weeks ago
A thug by any other name is still a thug no matter the color. Al and Jessie seem not to know this!
Zo 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Al & Jesse focus on crimes against Blacks perpetrated by any other race. If you look at the system it's setup to protect their own (ex:Wigington's son). It's only Al & Jesse fighting for all of us and you still complaining when you got the WHOLE system. No harm no foul you. You all on this "Al & Jesse" rant like you have something to hide. Again, no harm no foul
will 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Al and Jessie are using the black people for their own gain and some of them are to ignorant to see it. Zo go put your card back in your pocket it is not useful anymore and the black people are not entitled anything more than anyone else, nobody alive today had anything to do with slavery. By they way Zo your man hussein obama will be and is the worst leader this country has had to this point and if you dont see it you are out to lunch.
INJUSTICE_FOR_ALL 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Well said....
1ayk 11 months, 4 weeks ago
Would someone get Garvin something to clear his throat, who can understant him?
Zo 11 months, 4 weeks ago
@Will, Wayne, & Sundance, Again Will, draw the conclusion however you want. I pray that Zim had a darn good reason for killing that kid for his sake. We still don't have a crime being reported during that time or had been committed during that time. But prior to the altercation, Zim called 911, which is on the record, had told Zim to keep it moving. Zim, tough guy, came out because he knew he had a gun.
To address why we, Blacks, don't trip on Black on Black crime. Well we do that’s why the Black on Black crime rate has dropped greatly (63%). And with this case you don't have a clear picture why Zim shot that kid Martin. And of course we, Blacks, are going to scream foul play. Just based on the history of the misdeeds whites imposed on Blacks we have a justifiable reason to raise the race issue first. No harm no foul. It’s no different when someone dies the first thing the police check for is foul play and when that doesn't checkout they conclude other cause of death.
Sorry for Daquavious, but why is it Oz and Oden are the only Commissioner you all expect to do something? Is it that the Blacks are expected to solve everything? Contact everyone about this young man's death and not just wait for the Black commissioners. Ask the paper to run a story and offer a reward. Money talk
Elmo 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Zo..."Fanatic" is defined as "someone who won't change their mind, and can't change the subject". You definitely fit that description. All you seem to be about is color. You assign race to everything. Usually people who are that fanatical about anything have deep inferiority complexes and see the need to foster a perpetual "look at me, look at me" behavior. Well, we've looked. Just because the government turns a blind eye to violent crime based on "political correstness" doesn't mean the general population does the same. You can win all of the "rights" you want to through protests, riots and lawsuits, but until you win the hearts and minds of the people, you are getting nowhere fast. Americans are a generous and tolerant people, and everyone will flex to a certain degree in the name of harmony and peace, but pushing it beyond overkill will not have a good outcome. Nesbitt's past and record is out there for all to see, and no amount of cheerleading - or constant "dissing" of Ferguson - by you, is going to change that fact. Facts are what they are, not what you want them to be. When all of your grandstanding and implied intimidation is over, there will still be an election, and THAT will decide, not you. And, we're still NOT running away...got it?
Zo 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Rhetoric is your thing. I'm not here to intimidate anyone...trust, I'm the one intimidated. But I feel like the virtual hoods have made it their sole mission to intimidate Blacks and try to use all resources as a platform to launch such intimidation. You go through all this word play to say the same thing, you against Blacks. Cool, be like that, but don’t try to gain leverage by passing bias judgment on Blacks because you have an inferiority complex. I have never once lied on whites, but I can show you many mistruths from the virtual hoods. 6ft is 6ft unless you height challenged….let me slow that down, Blacks 6ft you 5’11, so instead of trying to grown an inch, you rather discount 6ft.
ctownslimm 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Did you just imply that Blacks are better than whites? If so, That my freind is racist. The belief that one race is better than another. So who is the one with the virtual hood? Bottom line, You dont care about the people in Conyers. You care about the Black people in COnyers. Everyone who has read you comments know this..
Zo 11 months, 3 weeks ago
If we were superior I wouldn't entertain your comments. And when I say superior in the aspect of controlling what is put out to the world. This paper and those who comment have an obligation to ensure no one is falsely represented. When you throw untruths out and attack Blacks I will speak up. Disagree, but allow your comments to be genuine not of hatred
INJUSTICE_FOR_ALL 11 months, 3 weeks ago
ANSWER THIS PLEASE. The n word... Why is that so offensive? Does that bring back memories? NO its just a word, sticks and stone may break my bones but no word will ever hurt me. SO make me understand please...
Zo 11 months, 3 weeks ago
If we were superior I wouldn't entertain your comments. And when I say superior in the aspect of controlling what is put out to the world. This paper and those who comment have an obligation to ensure no one is falsely represented. When you throw untruths out and attack Blacks I will speak up. Disagree, but allow your comments to be genuine not of hatred.
The mere fact you asked that ignorant question @jus us only proves my point ignorance still against and is allowed to hide behind the virtual hood and comment. The "N" word is motivation, ask President Obama, ask Oden, ask Oz, ask soon to be Sheriff Ferguson, ask you kid's coach and teacher, ask your pastor, ask those you paying every month.
will 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Zo, when i read you comments I do think of the "N" word as in nut, that is the "N" word to best describe you.
Zo 11 months, 3 weeks ago
will you are a joke... You started with zim & I kicked that theory to the crib. Now u moved to the n word...I'll b your nut! So enjoy it all in your mouth because you ain't saying nothing. Always remember, it was Blacks who put Blacks on slave ships. U claim to be Black, but your sole purpose is to chase behind me, cool. And for your info I'm a conservative, so your President Obama rhetoric don't bother me. I hope the virtual hood boys give you some sugar for chasing me.
ctownslimm 11 months, 3 weeks ago
".let me slow that down, Blacks 6ft you 5’11, so instead of trying to grown an inch, you rather discount 6ft." So what does this mean? You think Blacks are better than whites. That is what this sounds like.
Zo 11 months, 3 weeks ago
ok, whites are 6ft & Blacks are 5'11 whites would rather put Blacks down for being 5'11 & try to impede their growth so they won't reach 6ft. Wow!
INJUSTICE_FOR_ALL 11 months, 3 weeks ago
IGNORANT,you all just look for a excuse to use the race card. If the word offends you, you have issues. grow up, really a word is hurting your feeling. no wonder you all need help . foodstamp,housing, ect.
Zo 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Never said it hurt... I said this: "The mere fact you asked that ignorant question @jus us only proves my point ignorance still against and is allowed to hide behind the virtual hood and comment. The "N" word is motivation, ask President Obama, ask Oden, ask Oz, ask soon to be Sheriff Ferguson, ask you kid's coach and teacher, ask your pastor, ask those you paying every month.
And those of us who get public assistance, Blacks, we look at it as a "Hand Up" not a hand out.
Frustrated 11 months, 3 weeks ago
"This paper and those who comment have an obligation to ensure no one is falsely represented. "Disagree, but allow your comments to be genuine not of hatred." Oz why dont you live by your own words?
Zo 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Show me?
CitizenPat 11 months, 3 weeks ago
I am not a black american but my mother was not born in this country. She was called names and discriminated against and the word that was used to describe her is offensive. The "N" word is offensive and should not be used by anyone to describe anyone. The memory of the time when that word was used should shame us and remind everyone that discrimination in any form is contrary to freedom.
callmecrazy 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Hail to the comment on Rockdale Citizens rise up! I've lived here all my life and now teach here. Our schools are absolutely abissmal (sp?). I don't understand why we can't get some decent principals in these schools!!! Not all of them are bad, but most of them are. They have no experience and exude zero leadership skills. Yes, behavior control starts at home, but as educators we have to put up with this nonsense everyday. When we don't have administration support, what do we do??
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